Social Circle: Is it OK to refuse service because of neck tattoos?
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Last week, a woman was refused entry to a Greenfield bar because she had a neck tattoo. It is completely legal for bars to instill and enforce dress codes, but some still believe it is discriminatory.
OnMilwaukee.com asked the Social Circle for its thoughts on this. Below is a sampling of responses and for the full thread go here. Feel free to add your opinion via Facebook or the Talkback feature.
Anna Burgett: "Not everyone that has a neck tattoo is a felon."
Richard Chudnow: "We have a similar policy here at Comedy Sportz Milwaukee. 'We refuse the right to serve everyone.'"
Kat Froelich: "I can't write what I'm thinking."
Roy Henning: "I own a business and that's total bullshit. Was her money green? Then who gives a crap? Unless it had a racially motivated negative message, those owners are morons. Anyone ever heard the kindergarten message, 'Don't judge a book by its cover?'"
Sarah Jakubowski: "My husband and I hang out at that bar sometimes. I have tattoos but not on my neck so the rule doesn't apply. Personally, I don't have a problem with it. I think it's a private business owner's right to set their own rules and if their business suffers, that's the consequence they'll face."
Alan Kiedroski: "That's crap!"
Jeff Krawczyk: "A bar refused to let someone in because of dress code? Happens all the time."
Jimmy Lemke: "I used to be the doorman at a bar on the Southwest Side and we had the same rule. Usually, if someone is crazy enough to get a neck tattoo, they're going to bring crazy into your bar."
Claudine Lienau: "Stupid!"
Ed Macon: "Well let's go look at the long list of regulations on Water Street, that are way more ridiculous and designed to target minorities."
Ryan Ostler: "It would be hard to make a buck in Reno with that policy. More neck tattoos per capita than anywhere in the world."
Russ Pracieduz: "Did her neck tattoo say 'Only God Can Judge Me'? Because that would be funny."
John Revord: "Go to a bar that allows neck tattoos. I can only name a thousand."
Shannon Stone: "I am not saying I agree with the dress code but it's a little ridiculous how everyone has some sort of case for discrimination now."
Sven Swensenheimer: "It's their bar, they can decide."
Mitchell Wakefield: "Mock turtleneck."
Joseph Wilson: "Wrong."
There are several bars around here that cater to a more tattooed crowd. I have never once seen a fight at these bars and the people working there and the clientele were beyond accommodating. On the contrary several of the "frat" bars almost always seems to have people fighting and getting kicked out. It's insane to judge or think someone will start trouble because they have a neck tattoo. If it's just art and not racist or gang related who freaking cares. Probably the same people who ban dogs by breed and hate minorities made these rules. Small town minds.
It's their business, they can do what they want, serve who they want, whatever, agreed. My problem is with people like "hardgeminiguy." You're not forced to look at anything, just don't look. No one is holding your head to look in any direction. One must respect others and let them do what they want. Who are you to judge or decide what someone else does to their OWN body. what anyone wants to do to their body is THEIR business, and they can do what they want.
i agree--patrons should not be forced to look at awful tattoos--people are going far overboard in tattoos these days. and on women and men. one must respect one's body and not try to make it a work of art. and, yes, businesses have the right to refuse customers based on fow they look.
Yes, because tattoos are trashy. If the bar wants to give off a certain feel or atmosphere they should be allowed to since it's their business.
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